that was their line during this entire trial. for them to be crying now, being apologetic, you know, that's not what they were saying before. >> you know, i don't know what the answer is. i don't know how you stop behavior like this. but you know, these kids, they're kids but they're not 10 years old. they're 17, 18, 16, 17, 18 years old. you know, i don't know if parents -- does a parent need to say don't rape? does a parent need to say don't threaten a rape victim with killing her? it's so crazy and awful that the damage has been done long ago if kids are inclined to do that, and you know, piece of advice from parents, i don't know what good that would do. >> i do, jeffrey, i do think parents have an obligation to talk about sex. they do have an obligation to talk about boundaries. they have an obligation to talk about what is consensual sex. and no, i would hope that a 16-year-old doesn't need, you know, a lesson on what is rape but they do need to know that a girl that is intoxicated the way this young woman was is not capable of consenting to sex.